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Drew Goddard confirms that 'Sinister Six' would have included Spider-Man

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Josh Wilding

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on Drew Goddard confirms that 'Sinister Six' would have included Spider-Man

Not many fans shed a tear when Sony’s big plans for an Amazing Spider-Man Universe were scrapped after they and Marvel Studios came to a deal to bring Peter Parker to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. That’s largely down to some troubling rumours about Venom and the fact that it was widely believed Sinister Six was going to focus solely on the villains, with Spider-Man nowhere to be seen.

Well, Drew Goddard has now confirmed that his standalone Sinister Six movie (which would have been set in the same continuity as The Amazing Spider-Man movies without being a slave to them) most definitely would have featured the iconic wall-crawler.

“My vision of that movie was a summer annual. So you didn’t have to worry about continuity. It was just, ‘We take Peter, put him on an adventure, we put him back in his life.’ I intentionally wanted a movie that didn’t have to worry about mythology and continuity. It was important to me to make a movie that could stand on its own. So the good news is, you know, [laughs], it slots in very well to any plan anybody ever wants. We just need to let a couple years go by, I think.”

It’s clear that Sinister Six is a movie that could happen in the Marvel Cinematic Universe then, but would no doubt have to be retooled somewhat to fit into that world. Goddard doesn’t have sour grapes though, and went on to explain that, like Marc Webb, he’s excited to see Spider-Man standing alongside The Avengers.

“The tricky part about all this is I love this plan. I love that you get to see Spider-Man in Marvel movies. I think that’s a great thing. I’m on board with that decision because as a fan that’s what I want. So who knows what the future holds? This is Hollywood, man, you’ve gotta play the long game.”

Would you like to see Sinister Six become a reality in the Marvel Cinematic Universe with Goddard at the helm?

SOURCE: io9

Comments

  1. Pennywise Avatar
    Pennywise

    Well, yeah. Wasn’t that the assumption? Kinda hard to have a movie about Spider-Man villains teaming up to defeat Spider-Man without Spider-Man in the movie.

  2. Guy Avatar
    Guy

    “I intentionally wanted a movie that didn’t have to worry about mythology and continuity.”

    Didnt want to worry about mythology and continuity? Well that would’ve pissed off a lot of comic book purists!

    I know Hollywood movies don’t always stay true to the comic books, but honoring them as best as possible is an ideal comic book movie, IMHO.

  3. Daniel Christopher Holt Avatar
    Daniel Christopher Holt

    I thought a Sinister 6 movie and a Venom set of movies copied Suicide Squad too much. I came up with the idea of the format of both the Marvel and DC movies to exhibit the best of them, and found those ideas have two completely different formats to where even though they follow some trends they still seem so different. I think that if Sony continued with the previous Spiderman franchise it was going to fail and fall below expectations. As each movie would be made it would have diminishing returns, yet adjusted to inflation Sam Raimi’s first three Spiderman movies averaged consecutively $1 billion a movie and that’s when there weren’t as many audiences, comic movies weren’t as popular, and besides Spiderman at the time movies like Dark Knight Trilogy, Avengers, and Iron Man 3 didn’t exist until years later. One of their grand plans was to have Aunt May as a secret agent and give a grandma a movie. If she was I can see it more of a side story than a movie by itself, while in the comics Peter Parker’s parents were secret agents but they died on their first mission because they took on too much at once taking on one of the much harder jobs to where they were more than intelligent for it, but they weren’t experienced enough for it. By Sony combining their canon with Marvel Studios in Sony’s Spiderman reboot, there’s a lot more story ideas and progression they can work into. Now they can include Iron Man in to the fold. That extends what Robert Downey Jr. can do, because now they can include him in a lot more team movies, and other hero franchises, where he gets paid $40 million a movie but with a lot less screen time so he has more personal time with his family. They can let the canon unfold and then make more Iron Man movies. There’s a rich side to the story of Tony Stark with Norman Osborn who buys out HAMMER, tricks Tony by Norman acting like one of the good guys but is into a lot of illegal business for expansion on all fronts, Tony shares his Iron Man technology to him for Iron Patriot and American Son as Norman Osborn runs for US president as a “superhero” but using it for highly illegal and highly evil activity and much greater evil plans, Norman gets Tony to join in a war against Asgard, and there’s the Thor clone gone wrong. They can do 1984’s Secret Wars and Secret Wars II, 2004’s Secret War, Future Imperfect, Marvel 2099, and the modern Secret Wars and Secret Wars 2099. For Marvel Studios the enemy groups will be AIM (there can be an underground movement to the AIM company in Iron Man 3), New HYDRA, and The Cabal. For Sony the enemy groups will be Norman Osborn with HAMMER, Masters of Evil with Tinkerer, and Kingpin’s Empire while there are also more minor enemies that work within the major crime networks. Punisher and Daredevil can be brought into the storyline because Punisher has had a lot of all of the major crime networks to take down, but now that the family businesses are being removed by Punisher, and with SHIELD creating superhuman programs, a new level of crime groups have developed with Supervillain tech of stolen technology such as from the Iron Man technology. With Tony Stark this can lead to the very popular older storyline Armor Wars (not the new modern storyline). Tony Stark falls into the same problems of his father, in his father’s early days before and beginning developing SHIELD. With all of the evil Tony Stark’s technology is used for he combats alcoholism where he doesn’t go out in a major crisis combat where he’s needed that then leads to him taking care of business with Armor Wars. Norman Osborn is revealed to be doing illegal business, and Tony Stark co-creates Illuminati so that he can have a more broad view to the events because he keeps getting into more trouble. Sinister 6 can come into the storyline with Masters of Evil with Tinkerer. I hope that Fox joins with Marvel Studios and Sony for Marvel canon, and that Fox fixes the whole plotlines with Dr. Doom as Dr. Doom is a major character. Then Spiderman can cameo with Avengers, SHIELD, Guardians of the Galaxy, Fantastic Four, Inhumans, and the temporary X skyscraper of X-Factor where Spiderman can live in the X skyscraper with some college graduate mutants who grew up in the X-Mansion like in the show “Spiderman and his Amazing Friends”. Spiderman can live in the X skyscraper and Tony Stark gives him a lot of hidden expensive science equipment in the apartment building. One of Spiderman’s room mates is Ice Man, and Peter Parker also gets access to Cerebro of X-Mansion. Because of this Peter Parker sees more of X-Factor and X-Force. Peter also visits the Baxter Building alot. Forge, Cable, and Bishop join the X teams to reinforce the military technology of the X-Mansion while Scott Summers takes some great thinkers and creates another group X-Factor (Storm then leads one of the X-Men groups, with a yellow and a blue team), while also having a skyscraper developed so that he can market mutants in the gifts of their mind, so that he can make the mutant life successful. The X-Mansion has to also get military recruitment with the superhuman programs, that gives X-Mansion a lot more funding, and helps to bring more peace between humans and mutants. X-Mansion is sanctioned their own sentinels from the US military. Beast is a big part in helping X-Mansion and the mutants because he’s a prominent scientist with several top secret military programs, NASA, and also becomes one of the main leaders in planning with the newly created SWORD, that’s a sister group to SHIELD, with an outerspace outpost Carol Danvers can eventually join after gaining the white hole technology Binary abilities with experimentation from the Brood. Beast also has a big part in politics and is one of the main speakers for mutants to the government and to the media. The symbiote storylines should have the same deepness and development as in the comic books. The problem with the previous Spiderman is that it kept rushing everything, and the storylines and developing canon just weren’t powerful enough. Sony can get into developing 2 movies a year, and it’s movies can average from $500 million to $1 billion a movie. $1.5 billion to $2 billion possibly on some movies if they use some of the most popular storylines like 1984’s Secret Wars, but that could be a joint effort with Marvel Studios, Sony, and Fox.

  4. Daniel Christopher Holt Avatar
    Daniel Christopher Holt

    In the previous Spiderman movies it was rushed too much. Each part of the story happened together, instead of unfolding in plot it all happened too fast from the last point. Peter Parker is already graduated from High School, and you didn’t get to see that much of to where most of those two movies were just skipping all events instead of actually showing those events. They wanted to bring in Gwen Stacy with the Carnage symbiote right away. They were going to bring in Venom and Carnage right away. There’s no character or plot development. The stories are too simple. A lot of story should take place but certain things happen now, and then unfold later. In the second Spiderman film they killed off Gwen Stacy right away and didn’t give you time to think about it. It’s just 1 minute and then there’s nothing else to it. Peter Parker didn’t have a personality at all. This time Peter Parker can develop an overall life like in the comics where his life didn’t become so isolated until after he graduated college university and settled down with Mary Jane having a child, that stagnation took Peter Parker off of his balance from his prominent years of being a teenager to the college university. It’s like they kept getting to the point of Peter Parker’s life was already over before it began. I’ve talked about how they can develop Peter Parker into this big world, and how immense that would be. The story was too centered on Spiderman, instead of on the whole. Sony was too dependent on gimmicks where they rushed the symbiotes and are too dependent on them without properly doing the stories of the symbiotes. They can start off with several women coming into Peter Parker’s life but it starts off more moderate where he has more of a social life and isn’t put into a claustrophobic setting. Those women would be Felicia Hardy, Jessica Jones, Gwen Stacy, and Mary Jane. Peter Parker gets into a relationship with Gwen Stacy but then it ends with her death. If Norman Osborn starts out as Green Goblin he can say it’s insanity because of the gas, and then he recovers to where he can develop into the direction of buying out HAMMER to join forces with Tony Stark, but then he turns out to be fueled by his money making greed in hidden illegal business, and a much bigger hidden illegal agenda while the Goblin gas is no longer affecting him. Norman Osborn does lots of manipulation even tricking the USA, running for US president but using it for his hidden illegal agenda. After Gwen Stacy, Peter Parker gets the symbiote suit, he has for five years, in 1984’s Secret Wars while he has more of a bond with Felicia Hardy who also becomes Black Cat. He becomes more wild with the influence of the symbiote running away from something, and she’s the same way because of her troubled childhood and going into crime as a cat burglar that leads her to becoming a specialist who had aspirations to join SHIELD and Avengers but then also aids the bad side such as with Tinkerer. A strength of hers is that she knows both sides, so she’s not the archetypal good hero. Jackal works for SHIELD but then he could go to work for Norman Osborn. Jackal does cloning and he could clone Gwen Stacy. Then they can bond the clone to the Carnage symbiote who was already warped by Cletus Kasady, and she can’t control it killing a lot of innocent people. Jackal wanted to have fun with Peter Parker’s head to recreate his first girlfriend he was going to marry, and then face her off against him where he witnesses her going on a murdering spree. That would probably be something they do later on instead of cloning Gwen Stacy right away. When she dies they want to take time on her death. How does she get the Carnage symbiote when they haven’t introduced Cletus Kasady yet. Peter Parker develops a whole support system of many superhero teams, all of the main locations such as SHIELD, X-Mansion, and Baxter building, Daredevil, Punisher, Ben Reilly, Miles Morales, and a lot of others depending on the phase of what’s being developed into with the writing. He’s always aiding and learning with other people. The story goes beyond him and shows the whole Marvel world, and a lot of it is his interesting interaction with characters and what he does with it. The story of the Carnage symbiote with Gwen Stacy’s clone isn’t going to have the same impact unless a lot of Cletus Kasady’s story is already written, where they should do the symbiote phases like in the comics that involved a lot more backstory and a lot more developing story. If it happens right after Gwen Stacy dies it’s going to be very weak. That’s something that happened over a decade later after she died.

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